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Right now I'm gathering feedback from people who are not deep into the Fediverse yet.
What you can do to help:
* this post.
* show the wiki to your non-fedizen friends and forward me their feedback.
* of course you can give me feedback yourself even if you're a Fediverse veteran.
* help edit the wiki. For now I wrote almost everything myself.

Happy holidays everybody. 🎉

Wow. 200 Boosts. 🤩

I wonder if the post when I actually officially introduce the wiki can even come close.

Thanks everybody for spreading the word, for your feedback and for starting editing the wiki.
You're all the best! ❤️

@PaulaToThePeople
Hi Paula, in your wiki you emphasize on the fediverse-benefit of following accounts on different platforms with one account of my own.

I'd love to have a glimpse into pixelfed without signing up for that service. Is there a good way to do so with my mastodon profile? I expected something like single sign on.

Would love to participate in an article about that 😊

@lukasweidinger With the Android app Fedilab you can follow home timelines of other instances, including Pixelfed instances.
It doesn't work for me atm, but here is how it should work:
fedilab.app/wiki/features/reor

Other than that I don't really have an idea.

@lukasweidinger Oh and the instance qoto.org has that feature built in. You can follow any instance and display it like your home, local or federated timeline.
Maybe you can ask @netzbegruenung to fork that feature.

@PaulaToThePeople
Sounds great, I've installed the app but it doesn't find any public feeds at Pixelfeld.social

I'll try again tomorrow or ask the support.
Thanks a lot so far 😊

@SDF @PaulaToThePeople

Thanks for the hint, SDF.ORG!
Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me. I've sent @apps a PN but got no answer so far. I don't want to comment on Playstore since the app should appear positive there.

@lukasweidinger
Pixelfed allows to hide the public local timeline. So if it doesn't work, that means the admin decided to hide it (a token is required).

@dansup could you confirm? Thanks.

@SDF @PaulaToThePeople

@apps @lukasweidinger @dansup @PaulaToThePeople

Yes @dansup states here that the public timeline is not visible by design and that you can use discover which allows users to 'opt in' their posts:

github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed/i

This works for not logged:

pixelfed.sdf.org/discover

click on monthly to see public posts.

@dansup
Wow. Thank you, I didn't notice that the api endpoint changed.
We will proceed to the update.
#FedilabBug
@SDF @lukasweidinger
@PaulaToThePeople

@apps @SDF @lukasweidinger @PaulaToThePeople It never changed, but in the process of refactoring a bug was introduced to the /api/v1/timelines/public endpoint so I will fix that so you don't need to change the endpoint!

@PaulaToThePeople
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Das #JoinFediverseWiki ist fast bereit für seinen offiziellen Start in 8 Tagen. joinfediverse.wiki Im Moment sammle ich Feedback von Leuten, die noch nicht so tief im Fediverse drin sind. Was du tun kannst, um zu helfen: * #boost diesen Beitrag. * zeige das Wiki deinen Nicht-Fedizen-Freunden und schicke mir ihr Feedback.
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@PaulaToThePeople

* Natürlich kannst du mir auch selbst Feedback geben, selbst wenn du ein Fediverse-Veteran bist. * bei der Bearbeitung des Wikis helfen. Im Moment habe ich fast alles selbst geschrieben.
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@gebrauchskunst Btw, eine deutschsprachige Version des Wikis ist auch noch geplant, noch hapert es aber an der technischen Umsetzung.
Wird also wahrscheinlich erst später offiziell gemacht als das Englische.

@PaulaToThePeople Is there a good place to highlight content management systems that support AP, either natively or with third-party plugin support? I feel the key to getting more adoption of the fedi is in getting mainstream content (media/institutions/gov et cetera) in the ecosystem.

@PaulaToThePeople Nice, I’ll have a look later, for now all I can say is that the default wiki theme is not mobile friendly.

@PaulaToThePeople it has to be mobile first!
I can imagine, some people are brave enough to read about the fedi are scared, if a website isnt responsive

@tommy @Room4x3 Ich hab die Anleitung befolgt und MinervaNeue und MobileFrontend installiert.
Die mobile experience ist jetzt ein bisschen besser, aber noch weit von dem, wie es sein sollte.

@PaulaToThePeople I’m doing a small workshop in a few months about how to get involved with contributing to Fediverse projects - excited to have the new joinfediverse.wiki/ as a resource for folks!

@PaulaToThePeople Playing devils advocate a bit: is e-mail part of the fediverse? I'm interested in your point of view as I tend to believe that "fediverse" is an attempt to make ActivityPub sound more fancy.

@airin Soon as somene writes a page on it...
I don't have experience with Misskey myself.

@PaulaToThePeople Would be nice to see some representation for Misskey and the Fediverse-Friendly Moderation Covenant :flan_thumbs:
https://github.com/pixeldesu/fediverse-friendly-moderation-covenant

The latter would be especially nice considering that one of the goals seems to be educating people about the fediverse without bias; not every instance shares moderation tactics and some staunchly disagree with fediblock.

@amolith Well I staunchly disagree with the coenant.

Misskey however: sure. Someone just has to write a page about it.

@PaulaToThePeople you disagree with admins deciding to be responsible by verifying information for themselves and attempting to come to a peaceful resolution with problematic instances?
@PaulaToThePeople Regardless, I'm not saying fediblock shoud be dropped the wiki. I'm saying that the covenant should be mentioned for the sake of reducing bias and conveying to readers that the fediverse is an incredibly diverse place made up of people with wildly different opinions.

@amolith

I'm not claiming to speak for @PaulaToThePeople but I'm not fully in favor of the covenant, either.

The general theme seems to be, "disconnect as little as possible", and it recommends instance admins refrain from inhibitting the ability of users to connect.

Many users, however, want their moderators to be aggressive in blocking instances with differing codes of content.

There are tradeoffs with every policy, but many would favor user comfort over maximizing potential connections.

@amolith

For example:

5. No Guilt-by-Association/Federation

If the goal is to remove content from a known bad actor, then defederating from intermediate connections is often necessary. Mastodon.Technology followed this step with Gab to ensure that content from Gab didn't show up for m.t users.

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@Argus @PaulaToThePeople I'm not sure what user-level moderation tools Mastodon has now (it's been a long time since I ran it), but that's one of the methods I personally prefer. As an administrator, I don't believe it's my place to decide who my users can follow and who they can't. I don't want to make that decision for them.

I'm more than happy for them to block other individuals and instances as liberally as they please! Both Pleroma and Misskey have user-level domain blocks so users can paste whatever lists they like into that field and heavily curate their experience without impairing other users' ability to do the same.

Personally, when a problematic instance such as Gab shows up, I do take action. Nothing of value was ever posted by any Gab user and they did nothing but harass people. A few of my users did experience harassment originating from Gab, I pinged some of their moderators, they did nothing, I suspended the user instance-wide, they evaded the suspension by creating new accounts, administration still did nothing, so I defederated from them.

If there's a problem, it should be addressed. Otherwise, I prefer to live and let live. If they're not actively causing problems with my users, there's no reason to defederate from them.

This is my *personal* approach. I know there are other instances with even more lax approaches and I don't particularly agree with them.

@amolith @PaulaToThePeople

I gotcha, so you're describing a policy and recognizing that there's a spectrum of defederation aggressiveness that people follow. There are many fediverse users who would prefer an instance with that kind of policy.

And that's dandy! It's likely that those instances will have more connections, which their user base will value.

Users that value more active moderation will likely gravitate towards servers with prescriptive codes of conduct.

The beauty of the fediverse!

@PaulaToThePeople I just updated the mobile apps page. Would it be a good idea to add app icons for each of them?

Hey @Mossy,
Before changing so much in a page please talk about it first.
You removed some app descriptions. Why?
Also I don't think it's a good idea to mention the licenses. Non-techy users will just be deterred.

@PaulaToThePeople apologies, I should’ve talked about it. I removed some of the descriptions to replace them with the descriptions from their own sites; if you think we should revert to our descriptions then that’s fine and I can help add some more. I also see what you mean about licences. Maybe we should remove them and just mention is a specific app is proprietary?

@Mossy

I think the descriptions should describe the app, what it does and what features it has, not so much the network or where it was forked from.

I wrote the licenses in small, I think that's a good compromise.

Let's maybe continue this discussion in that page's talk page?

@PaulaToThePeople cool cool! Also, thanks for putting this project together, it’s great!

@PaulaToThePeople I'll save my boost for that day to make sure you get at least 201 boosts!

@PaulaToThePeople just made my first edit :) minor typos. I would love to contribute more!

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